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According To Poll, Only 25% Of Democrats Want To Abolish ICE Now

8/28/2018

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Knowing that there is any number of Americans that wants to abolish ICE, in my mind, is not a good thing. However, let me explain why this is pretty incredible news.
 
A few months back, when the immigration debate somehow became a good thing for Democrats because of ICE policy of separating children from their parents (that was demonized as virtual kidnapping of foreigners), around 43% of Democrats said that they supported a bill that would effectively abolish ICE.
 
Interestingly enough, a few Democrats picked up on that and decided to make it a front-and-center issue for them, and it even led to some Democrats wanting to vote on such a thing in the House of Representatives, with Republicans calling their bluff on it, and the Democrats voting against bringing up the issue.
 
But regardless of this, separation of children at the border became a big issue for Democrats, with Elizabeth Warren even saying that that’s more important than Mollie Tibbetts being killed by an illegal immigrant. It was a big deal and a big topic. And clearly, at the time, Democrats thought immigration and ICE would be a good topic to rally a resistance to Trump in November.
 
It seems now, however, that such a thing might not be a very good idea. According to an Associated Press poll, “only a quarter of Democrats support eliminating the agency that carried out the Trump administration’s policy of separating immigrant children from their parents.”
 
With that said, that doesn’t exactly mean that ICE is starting to make some friends out of Democrats. According to the AP, around 57% of Democrats and 75% of people who are self-described liberals view the agency in a negative way.
 
Still, it’s interesting to see such a massive shift away from wanting to flat out abolish ICE. It seems that the only reason so many Democrats wanted to abolish ICE was because of the outrage they felt and the emotions they held about separation of children at the border. Once the outrage died down, it seems more Democrats were beginning to think a bit more and decide that, while they may not necessarily support or like ICE, they are a necessity for border security.
 
Of course, you could say: “But Freddie, I thought Democrats didn’t care about border security”. ELECTED Democrats don’t, because they get free votes with more illegals pouring into the country and never being negatively affected by it, given they feel safe and secure in their own homes.
 
However, while there are plenty of Democrat voters who might not care about border security and want open borders, there are enough of them to realize that such a thing would not be fantastic, as many criminals could also come in and wreak havoc upon Americans.
 
Democrat voters don’t want criminals on the streets. Democrat officials want anyone they can get to vote, regardless of criminal history.
 
Now, there is another observation I wish to make. Children separated at the borders seemed, for a time, that it would be a frontline issue for Democrats to tackle and run on in the upcoming midterm elections, with the abolition of ICE likely being part of it. However, as time has gone on and the dust has settled, less and less Democrats have begun to support the idea of abolishing the organization altogether. They may want to reform it in some way, which is the direction other Democrats such as Bernie Sanders (yes, he’s technically an Independent, but he’s a Leftist and Democrats are Leftists, so…) have gone, but not abolish it altogether, as people like Ocasio-Cortez have campaigned on.
 
This much is evident by what I have mentioned above. But the other thing I want to observe here is that it seems Democrats can’t hold on to numbers as well as Trump can.
 
What do I mean by that? Let’s compare the Democrats and President Trump.
 
The Democrats, once people have spent their outrage, have seemingly lost support for a key issue they may have wanted to tackle. Sure, Leftists like Bernie Sanders were against the abolition of slav… -er, I mean ICE, but there were Democrats that thought they could make this an issue to run on, as Ocasio-Cortez literally ran on such an issue to defeat Joe Crowley in the Democrat primaries in New York a few months ago.
 
So this is an issue the Dems want to go with, particularly since Ocasio-Cortez is now one of the faces of the Democrat Party. But given the numbers of Democrats who want to abolish ICE is now LOWER than it used to be, it’s clear that the Dems might not be able to hold large numbers for a long time.
 
So what does Trump have to do with this? Why bring him up? It’s not necessarily about the issue of immigration or anything of the sort. It’s about his approval numbers.
 
After the Helsinki summit with Putin, people expected his numbers to go down. They literally did the opposite, with Trump’s approval numbers RISING after the meeting and holding steady ever since.
 
After the Cohen and Manafort cases, which the Left touted as the beginning of the end for Trump, his numbers, according to an NBC/WSJ poll, have not really budged much, with his numbers being at 46% approval the day after the Manafort and Cohen convictions and 44% a couple of days later.
 
Yeah, some movement, but nothing as catastrophic as the Left would want, even in a relatively liberal poll. What was described as a horrible week for Trump has shown to be mostly nothing, since the biggest point of the convictions and the Russia collusion narratives have been about driving down Trump’s numbers.
 
The Left believes these convictions are Trump’s Watergate. The thing is that 1) these things aren’t about Trump that much (Manafort’s case has nothing to do with Trump and Cohen’s case was, seemingly, mostly about his own actions) and 2) what really destroyed Nixon was that his approval numbers were shattered in the time of the scandal breaking out and the time leading up to his resignation.
 
You see, impeachment is not about justice. While the grounds for impeachment are mostly about high crimes and misdemeanors and that’s what has to start impeachment proceedings that at least appear legit, impeachment is entirely about politics.
 
Take Nixon, for example. No, he was never impeached, but he was forced to resign to avoid impeachment because his numbers were so low (24% by the time he resigned, according to Gallup). So while he did do something wrong and illegal and should have been forced from office, the bigger point of Watergate was to drop his numbers to the point where virtually everyone in America wanted him gone, and it worked.
 
Now, take Bill Clinton, for example. Yes, he was technically impeached, but he still served the rest of his term because the impeachment was essentially taken back. And the reason he still served the rest of his term is because he enjoyed very high approval ratings. Most people did not want Clinton out of office, despite the fact that he committed sexual assault as POTUS and should have been forced from office.
 
So one of the biggest differences between Trump and Nixon is that (apart from the fact that Nixon actually did something wrong while Trump is being attacked because the biggest crime he committed was defeat the Left) Nixon’s numbers dropped significantly due to the scandal. Trump’s numbers have only gone UP since the collusion story and every little other thing that the Left wants to stick on Trump that severely discredits them.
 
Trump, despite what the Left is saying and doing, is only gaining popularity, even at times when it would seem like he is in trouble. The Democrats, on the other hand, cannot hold on to their popularity, at least on certain issues.
 
Again, abolishing ICE was something even elected Democrats and Leftists were divided on, but with drops in numbers like these in this amount of time, that tells me Democrats are entirely dependent on the reactions they can get out of people for certain things than on their own actions. This is nothing new, but that’s where Trump has them beat. His numbers aren’t dwindling because he’s Making America Great Again. His actions are the reason for his high approval rating.
 
But for Democrats, things don’t look so good. Again, this is one issue that even they were divided on, but drops like these are never a good thing, particularly for people like Ocasio-Cortez who campaigned on this issue.
 
However, don’t take this to mean that Democrats will be soundly defeated in November. They will only be defeated if Republicans go out to vote. Their base is energized with hatred for Trump, despite his approval numbers. So we better go out and match their energy. Trump may not be on the ballot, but he will be severely affected by the results of this election. If we want to keep Making America Great Again, we’re going to have to go out with the same energy that we did in 2016.
 
Otherwise, there really might be a blue wave (maybe not as big as the Left would want, but still) and that would mean Trump gets essentially derailed, if not altogether impeached.
 
Democrat voters want to kick Trump out. We have to ensure he remains with a Republican majority in Congress.
 
With that said, I am hopeful for the midterms. I tend to call myself a realist, so that should be an indication to what I expect will happen in November. Although, I must say this: what happens in July/August doesn’t necessarily affect what happens in November all that much. Which is why any numbers that give any indication to a blue wave today might not be there or very accurate by the time of the election.
 
Proverbs 16:7
“When a man’s ways please the Lord, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.”
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